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Left is right in withdrawing support
Abhilash Thadhni , Ahmedabad: Jul 9 2008
Made Popular Jul 9 2008
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Left is right in withdrawing support

I fully support the left parties’ decision to withdraw support to the Manmohan Singh government on the nuclear deal issue. The portrayal of the deal as a quick fix solution to our power shortage problem is far from the truth. Even if all our nuclear power plants start working at full capacity, the additional power generated would be like a drop in a bucket. We have the necessary resources such as coal and cheap labour to meet our energy needs through thermal generation for the next 300 to 500 years.

The left is right in demanding that the government make public the text of the agreement with the IAEA. The pact with the US will forbid India from carrying out nuclear tests while leaving our two nuclear power capable neighbours – Pakistan and China to do so.

Moreover most of our nuclear power plants are built with old junk Soviet technology. This increases the risk of an accident similar to Chernobyl. Do we have the expertise to deal with such an eventuality?

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Grace Calderon
Quezon City, Philippines
Right on! Hurray! No to nuke! Nuclear power isn’t the answer to power shortage. It is inherently destructive in the long run, over the long haul. It is an unthinking expensive stop-gap measure.

You’re right, who wants another Chernobyl nightmare?


http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/nuclear
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Harshpaul
shimla, India
I agree with you, the left is right there; it was such a pain. BTW, the left has been a very vocal supporter of Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

Nuclear power is much cleaner than coal. That is why it is prefered. Also, the coal in India is said to have a high ash content, even at this point, a large amount of coal used is imported.

You’ve clearly mentioned that Indian reactors are aging, and aging fast. India needs new technology for its reactors to prevent any disasters, and this deal will open doors to that technology.

The deal is not just about running our current reactors at full capacity, its also about creating new reactors. India needs energy, and lots of it.

If India conducts a nuke test, the USA will stop further supply of fuel. At that point, some other nation may come forward, plus, there is a strong chance that we will have the capacity to make the required fuel ourselves in a few years.
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Cute
Kolkata, India
I am not agreed with you for Technology Russia / China will be the right choice for us. Although we are not lagging far behind we have discovered two stage reactor and that can generate energy from thorium . which is very easily available in India
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Harshpaul
shimla, India
China a better option? It has been opposing this deal tooth and nail. And its friendly attitude towards India is well known.

The thorium two stage reactor has not reached a state of efficiency that may allow its use in power plants. As I said earlier, we have a strong chance to create our own fuel, but that may take time. I was refering to this thorium reactor at that point.

Besides, we do need to keep pace with the technological developments and get into the mainstream nuclear market.
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wow,,,,,,,, good news for China, not for India
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Cute
Kolkata, India
I think this will be another wrong step. And Dr. Sing doing this with full of his knowledge. We don’t need even fuel from USA because we can generate power by thorium , we have build two satge reactor which is great . It will send wrong message to the world. Still now USA is the only country who had apply Nuclear power in war . Now Dr. Sing is working for Bush and USA , that should not be .
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While the entire issue is debatable, the Left must not be allowed to get any political mileage from it. This will harm the country in the long run. Left is not opposing nukes, they are opposing because it is US. Had it been China they would have said nothing. They are not thinking about the national security but their minority votebank.
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Cute
Kolkata, India
Mulayam Sing and congress is getting political advantage from it . There is no open seasson in Lok SAVA that people can listen . Mr Sing is surrendering against US presser , that is very clear . He is not doing justice with the country. How many people understand the effect of N-DEAL I doubt. Do you think that that is the only issue in the country that’s need to solve right now .It looks like he under presser and compromised with USA
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They are not getting any advantage...whatever the deal turns out to be...it has not had any positive impact on people. They will lose out in elections.
Who said that this is the only issue?
But I and every reasonable persons for that matter, does have an issue with the anti national left front.
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It’s apparent that left is always anti America and as India is only a step far from striking a nuclear deal there seems a problem for leftist. True, political parties are trying to gain some political mileage as left calls the deal anti Muslim (what’s actually anti-Muslim in it, I have yet to figure) with few other parties criticizing UPA and charging them for hoodwinking fellow compatriots. However let me clear my personal opinion here, being in the opposition NDA is opposing the deal and demanding to make it more advantageous for the country, but I am hundred percent sure about it that if NDA were in the power, it might have moved in the similar way.

Left is left, because it can never be right. Scratching my brain harder I am reminded of the year 1994, when the government wanted to implement the computer in their offices, left had opted a similar way and were opposing the move as it could inundate many job in the offices. Now, tell me how many people lost their jobs, I feel computer gave more than it took.

Tell me what’s the problem in moving with the world, beware India beware, it’s time to level with China otherwise our entity and sovereignty will be on stake.
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You just snatched my words Rahul! This is one example of how illogical and myopic the left can be!
As far as the US pressure is concerned, they themselves are facing pressure back home. Conservatives sides just can’t imagine US having such a deal with a developing nation.
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Cute
Kolkata, India
I am not agree with you because what ever in the deal is not still clear to everyone . USA govt is going to add one new section on this rule . That is on the draft document and that is not even verified by the International body . Now assume that if that section told you have to attack IRAN when USA will attack IRAN then what will you do. Deal and negotiation can only done by two equal, if USA break the deal the what india can do ? what they have done in Iraq ? what they have done Diago Garcia ? Dr. Sing can do anything for staying in the Govt. We need to know the exact draft of the deal for global peace .
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1. No one has ever said that the deal has to be signed blindly. The point is about the naivety, stubbornness, anti-nationalism and myopia of the left.

2. I have discussed the need of transparency in my recent article.
You can see this one...

http://jitaditya.instablogs.com/entry/rti-transparency-n-deal-and-some-random-thoughts/



3.So far as involvement of international body is concerned....a whole lot of discussion about going to IAEA is going on.

4. Lastly, let’s have some respect for the PM who ushered in the economic reforms to the nation. He is not such a fool to sign the terms you have mentioned.
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hahhahaha very nice, tell me how many days are left for the election. don’t u feel that opposition is only trying to capture the vote and as well left. Left only wants to remain in the press room, apart from the WB and kerela, they have hardly spread their wings, so they need some capsule to be in the political arena. believe me it’s only a political stunt, and u also discuss about USA, I welcome ur ideas on Iraq and ur apprehension can be right on Iran, but here I would like to add few lines, to attack a nation government has to take all parties in confidence, which seems very difficult and for Congress, i feel this is not a last term.
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Cute
Kolkata, India
let me get out this things and allow me ask few questions .

Do you think that USA will supply there latest Nuclear Technology to India ?
Do you think all the European county will open there diplomatic blockage regarding supply of technology in India ?
Do you think we will avoid US intellectual and patent law regarding the Nuclear research after this law ?
DO you think we can do independent research after this law without doing any blast ?
do you who has done highest N-blast in world ?
Do you think Dr. Sing / congress will be still at position to answer this question ?
I hope now ,
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I don’t want make it a war of comment, however i would like to ask a simple question, do we have other option
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I think you are still stuck in the intricacies of the deal while the talk was about the left.
Anyway to answer a few of the questions...
1. See the technological divide. What India is getting is more sophisticated than what we are using. It’ll take decades to develop them in indigenously. There is no point of inventing whatever has been already invented.

2. The European countries are out of context here. They will have their own norms and skepticism in any case.

3. I know who has done the N-Blast. But I also know that that was WWII(though it was harsh)

4. Finally the need for transparency as I mentioned earlier, is necessary. But it should not be at the cost of national interest or at the benefit of Chinese interest.
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Cute
Kolkata, India
Congress should ask all the scientist they are doing research on India at various institute. Let Dr. Sing should tell us what he is going to do ? Let do world wide movement (previously Late Indira Gandhi had done ) . Many thing can be done . But he is behaving like a superman .
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Harshpaul
shimla, India
I think I can answer many of your questions here. First let me point out, that though the deal starts with USA, it is global in outlook.

1) It is a civilian deal in all respects. The US will have no problem with giving us the latest technology, if it doesn’t do that, we have a host of other options.

2) Britain and France have already announced their support for the deal. France uses nuclear power to fulfill most of its energy requirements and has clearly said that it would be willing to go to the extent of technology transfer once business starts. Tech Transfer is a great plus.

3) When you are buying equipment in scale of billions of dollars, you are of course allowed to use it. The patent law question is invalid.

4) Independent research can move forward. Infact, it would benefit because scientists won’t be trying to invent what is already invented. (as Jitaditya has already said).

5) The last question is totally irrelevant. It has nothing to do with this deal or with Left’s withdrawl of support. Infact, i’m yet to see a country that became a nuclear power without carrying out any tests. India included. The Nagasaki and Hiroshima incidents cannot be used as an argument against the deal.

Dr. Singh will have to answer these questions. All of us can agree that transparency is an essential part to this deal.
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That was pretty comprehensive...Thanks!
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BTW, coal is not the right option even if we have it in plenty. It ruins the environment. You can talk about other options like solar or wind energy.

Also, as you have mentioned our technological incapacity at the end. That might actually be an argument in favor of the deal.
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